What unpopular opinion do you hold?

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What unpopular opinion do you hold?

Postby Phoebe » Wed Sep 27, 2017 1:09 pm

An exercise I've been dabbling in:
What do people experience when they have views unpopular among the other people who surround them? What are some of the ways in which that occurs and how does it shape us?

So to that end, what are some of your least-popular views? They don't have to be unpopular in every context or group; just unpopular in at least one important group of people you pass among.

In this particular thread, please don't argue about anybody's unpopular views, though you can say whether you share or don't share them. If they want to argue about it in another thread, fine, but the point here is only to see what the range of unpopular views might be, that people experience navigating the world with, and to ask what that experience is like.
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Re: What unpopular opinion do you hold?

Postby Phoebe » Wed Sep 27, 2017 1:12 pm

Here is one small example for me:
I don't think there's anything inherently wicked about guns, owning guns, shooting guns for sport, hunting, and teaching gun safety and use to kids.

This is a very unpopular view among my friends and other parents with kids around mine. There are situations where I know people wouldn't let their kids come to my house if they thought I had a gun in it.

The result of this view in my life is that I keep my mouth shut about this topic in most situations, because I don't want my children to be penalized socially if the parents of their friends think my view is abhorrent. I also keep my mouth shut about this topic at work unless I'm with certain people who already know me well.
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Re: What unpopular opinion do you hold?

Postby El Jefe » Wed Sep 27, 2017 1:22 pm

That those military service members who continued to re-up their service after the details of the specious to non-existent intelligence that precipitated the invasion of Iraq did a massive disservice to their oath, if not an outright abrogation of that oath. Seriously, debating or mentioning this is pretty much walking around holding fucking plutonium.

That about 99% of people who want to own firearms for "self-defense" or "needing to resist tyranny" want it for neither of those reasons, and are largely incapable of using such a weapon in either of those situations. Also, if you mention "because you're afraid of pretty much everything that isn't exactly a carbon copy of you", you're back to plutonium.

That our current model of capitalism has fatal, unrecoverable flaws in the foundation, due to using British laws and theory concerning incorporation and by accepting the debunked idea of constantly increasing profits (and profit margins, by extension). It's not full on plutonium, but definitely enough to get THE REAL PATRIOTS to start squawking.
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Re: What unpopular opinion do you hold?

Postby Kyle » Wed Sep 27, 2017 1:44 pm

Two:

1- I don't think people should be forced to vaccinate their children.

2- Animals are chattel and should not possess any rights.
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Re: What unpopular opinion do you hold?

Postby poorpete » Wed Sep 27, 2017 2:03 pm

I will not engage... I will not engage...

Ok, unpopular opinion: Frank Sinatra is meh. Baby's Day Out was good.

I go back-and-forth on this on protecting the public from someone with an disease and letting people who served their time be allowed to live like any other post-prisoner is allowed. But at some points I've had this opinion: Sex offender registry shouldn't be a thing, or at least, shouldn't be the only criminals we care about after they serve their time. Let's get Angrilly shot someone registry, white collar criminal registry, robbed neighborhood homes registry... or none. I keep flipping on this too, and as you can tell, I'm already hedging and qualifying.
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Re: What unpopular opinion do you hold?

Postby Mike » Wed Sep 27, 2017 2:23 pm

All I know is my food tastes better when I take my food-tastes-better pill.
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Re: What unpopular opinion do you hold?

Postby Phoebe » Wed Sep 27, 2017 3:15 pm

My biggest one is abortion. There are few people who aren't annoyed by this view: abortion takes a real and valuable human life, so elective abortion should be avoided and is generally wrong, but there are also instances where deliberately ending the pregnancy is in fact morally right and is a better solution to a bad problem.

I discuss that view with almost no one because I want to have friends.
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Re: What unpopular opinion do you hold?

Postby Iantha » Wed Sep 27, 2017 4:54 pm

I think Democratic Socialism is a far superior form of government to Capitalism.

I strongly support abortions up to the point of reasonable viability, which is roundabouts 26-7 weeks.That's not to say that a fetus can't survive if born at 24 weeks or that it will absolutely have debilitating conditions that will prevent quality of life. Because they can and some have had happy, healthy lives. But the chances are not great and if a parent decides that they just couldn't handle it, an abortion should be available.
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Re: What unpopular opinion do you hold?

Postby mimekiller » Wed Sep 27, 2017 5:10 pm

That deaf people shouldn't be able to legally own property.
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Re: What unpopular opinion do you hold?

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Re: What unpopular opinion do you hold?

Postby DMDarcs » Wed Sep 27, 2017 5:48 pm

I believe most religions are fundamentally correct and can coexist with each other without any of them being wrong.

I believe you don't have to attend religious services to be religious.

I believe chewing gum is one of the most disgusting things on the planet.
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Re: What unpopular opinion do you hold?

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Re: What unpopular opinion do you hold?

Postby FlameBlade » Thu Sep 28, 2017 5:03 am

Heracles. Fists. Pantheon.

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Re: What unpopular opinion do you hold?

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Re: What unpopular opinion do you hold?

Postby Tahlvin » Thu Sep 28, 2017 6:12 am

Don’t make Wonder Woman bisexual.

I understand the background of the character, and the writer recently indicating she is queer (the word used in the story I read). But we finally have a strong female lead character superhero, and people want to make her bisexual, that just seems to me a bit unnecessary at this point, and may do more harm than good. If you want to make a statement, make one of the major male superheroes gay or bi, like Tony Stark, or Thor, or Hulk. Or even better, I’m sure there are plenty of gay/bi superhero characters who were written that way from the start who deserve a big screen appearance.
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Re: What unpopular opinion do you hold?

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Re: What unpopular opinion do you hold?

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Re: What unpopular opinion do you hold?

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Re: What unpopular opinion do you hold?

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Re: What unpopular opinion do you hold?

Postby Phoebe » Thu Sep 28, 2017 7:34 pm

Why can't you be funny, at least?

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