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Ranking all the Supes since X-Men

Postby Kyle » Tue Apr 04, 2017 1:51 pm

So I was talking with Pdyx, and I've decided that we need to find a way to definitively rank all the superhero movies since the new "renaissance" that began with X-Men in 2000. I've chosen to start with that because, while there was success with Burton's Batman and the first two Superman movies, X-Men is the one that opened the door to the modern phenomenon.

I also am going to arbitrarily decide what is a "superhero" movie in this context and what isn't. It has to be movies that had a theatrical release- no DTV. I think I'm leaning towards established comic-book heroes that were marginally popular. Thus, as much as it breaks my heart to say this: Unbreakable and Super are out.

I'm also cutting it off with the end it off as of today, so Logan is the last movie on the list.

We can work out the process of how to make these decisions in this thread, but: (1) it has to be a ranking; and (2) it has to be unanimous. I think the second one might prove problematic. I'm debating randomizing the order and then doing them tournament style, with majority vote winning.

The movies to rank (for my reference, I've bolded the ones I haven't seen):
X-Men (2000)
Spider-Man (2002)
Daredevil (2003)
X-2: X-Men United (2003)
Hulk (2003)
The Punisher (2004)
Spider-Man 2 (2004)
Catwoman (2004)
Elektra (2005)
Constantine (2005)
Batman Begins (2005)
Fantastic Four (2005)
X-Men: The Last Stand (2006)
Superman Returns (2006)
Ghost Rider (2007)
Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer (2007)
Spider-Man 3 (2007)
Iron Man (2008)
The Incredible Hulk (2008)
The Dark Knight (2008)
Punisher: War Zone (2008)
Watchmen (2009)
X-Men Origins: Wolverine (2009)
Kick-Ass (2010)
Iron Man 2 (2010)
Jonah Hex (2010)
Thor (2011)
X-Men: First Class (2011)
Green Lantern (2011)
Captain America: The First Avenger (2011)
Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance (2012)
The Avengers (2012)
The Amazing Spider-Man (2012)
The Dark Knight Rises (2012)
Dredd (2012)
Iron Man 3 (2013)
Man of Steel (2013)
The Wolverine (2013)
Kick-Ass 2 (2013)
Thor: The Dark World (2013)
Captain America: The Winter Soldier (2014)
The Amazing Spider-Man 2 (2014)
X-Men: Days of Future Past (2014)
Guardians of the Galaxy (2014)
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (2014)
Avengers: Age of Ultron (2015)
Ant-Man (2015)
Fantastic Four (2015)
Deadpool (2016)
Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016)
Captain America: Civil War (2016)
X-Men: Apocalypse (2016)
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Out of the Shadows (2016)
Suicide Squad (2016)
Doctor Strange (2016)
Logan (2017)

Questionable entries:
Blade 2 (2002)
The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen (2003)
Hellboy (2004)
Blade: Trinity (2004)
Hellboy 2: The Golden Army (2008)
The Spirit (2008)
The Green Hornet (2011)
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Re: Ranking all the Supes since X-Men

Postby Kyle » Tue Apr 04, 2017 1:52 pm

Interestingly- if we include all the entries and the questionable entries- then we have 63 movies (if I counted right)- which means if we find one more, then we can have a 64 movie bracket tournament.
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Re: Ranking all the Supes since X-Men

Postby Kyle » Tue Apr 04, 2017 2:12 pm

Okay, I've talked it over with Zombie. I've confirmed that there are 63 movies total listed above. If we add in the original Blade, that would make 64 movies.

With 64 movies, we can do a single elimination bracket. We think that we should seed the movies based on rotten tomatoes or metacritic score. Or rotten tomatoes and, if there's a tie, broken by metacritic. That way we don't have Dark Knight going up against Spider-Man-2 in the first round.
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Re: Ranking all the Supes since X-Men

Postby Kyle » Tue Apr 04, 2017 2:18 pm

I'm also thinking of running them rapidly at first-- i.e., three days for everyone to vote in the North Bracket; then the South and then the other two. We go like that until we get down to the Sweet 16, then we slow it down. I'm not sure how much. But enough to actually give motivated voters a chance to revisit movies prior to voting.

This is all up in the air right now, but input is appreciated.
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Re: Ranking all the Supes since X-Men

Postby Kyle » Tue Apr 04, 2017 2:20 pm

Revised List:

Blade (1998)
X-Men (2000)
Spider-Man (2002)
Blade 2 (2002)
Daredevil (2003)
X-2: X-Men United (2003)
The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen (2003)
Hulk (2003)
The Punisher (2004)
Blade: Trinity (2004)
Spider-Man 2 (2004)
Hellboy (2004)
Catwoman (2004)
Elektra (2005)
Constantine (2005)
Batman Begins (2005)
Fantastic Four (2005)
X-Men: The Last Stand (2006)
Superman Returns (2006)
Ghost Rider (2007)
Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer (2007)
Spider-Man 3 (2007)
Iron Man (2008)
The Incredible Hulk (2008)
The Spirit (2008)
Hellboy 2: The Golden Army (2008)
The Dark Knight (2008)
Punisher: War Zone (2008)
Watchmen (2009)
X-Men Origins: Wolverine (2009)
Kick-Ass (2010)
Iron Man 2 (2010)
Jonah Hex (2010)
Thor (2011)
X-Men: First Class (2011)
Green Lantern (2011)
The Green Hornet (2011)
Captain America: The First Avenger (2011)
Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance (2012)
The Avengers (2012)
The Amazing Spider-Man (2012)
The Dark Knight Rises (2012)
Dredd (2012)
Iron Man 3 (2013)
Man of Steel (2013)
The Wolverine (2013)
Kick-Ass 2 (2013)
Thor: The Dark World (2013)
Captain America: The Winter Soldier (2014)
The Amazing Spider-Man 2 (2014)
X-Men: Days of Future Past (2014)
Guardians of the Galaxy (2014)
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (2014)
Avengers: Age of Ultron (2015)
Ant-Man (2015)
Fantastic Four (2015)
Deadpool (2016)
Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016)
Captain America: Civil War (2016)
X-Men: Apocalypse (2016)
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Out of the Shadows (2016)
Suicide Squad (2016)
Doctor Strange (2016)
Logan (2017)
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Re: Ranking all the Supes since X-Men

Postby Kyle » Tue Apr 04, 2017 3:40 pm

Okay- here's the seedings based on RT scores with ties broken by MC scores. The seeding committee only had to break three complete ties. The seeding committee placed X-Men above Ant-Man; X-Men Origins: Wolverine over Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Out of the Shadows; and Catwoman above Fantastic Four (2015):

1. The Dark Knight
2. Iron Man
3. Spider-Man 2
4. Logan
5. The Avengers
6. Guardians of the Galaxy
7. X-Men: Days of Future Past
8. Captain America: Civil War
9. Doctor Strange
10. Spider-Man
11. Captain America: The Winter Soldier
12. The Dark Knight Rises
13. X-2: X-Men United
14. X-Men: First Class
15. Hellboy 2: The Golden Army
16. Batman Begins
17. Deadpool
18. Hellboy
19. X-Men
20. Ant-Man
21. Captain America: The First Avenger
22. Iron Man 3
23. Dredd
24. Thor
25. Superman Returns
26. Kick-Ass
27. Avengers: Age of Ultron
28. The Amazing Spider-Man
29. Iron Man 2
30. The Wolverine
31. The Incredible Hulk
32. Thor: The Dark World
33. Watchmen
34. Spider-Man 3
35. Hulk
36. X-Men: The Last Stand
37. Blade 2
38. Man of Steel
39. Blade
40. The Amazing Spider-Man 2
41. X-Men: Apocalypse
42. Constantine
43. Daredevil
44. The Green Hornet
45. X-Men Origins: Wolverine
46. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Out of the Shadows
47. Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer
48. Kick-Ass 2
49. The Punisher
50. Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice
51. Fantastic Four (2005)
52. Punisher: War Zone
53. Green Lantern
54. Ghost Rider
55. Suicide Squad
56. Blade: Trinity
57. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
58. Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance
59. The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen
60. The Spirit
61. Jonah Hex
62. Elektra
63. Catwoman
64. Fantastic Four (2015)

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