There' a lot to be admired about some of the early zionists. They did work some great feats, especially for people who were largely urban and from privileged classes, who when they immigrated, used the large of their backs to pull produce from the ground. They were disciplined, and they had an early code of honor that is admirable and just. Unfortunately, they were not the ones who came to dominate the political scene.
You know, one of the weird things about traumatic abuse is that it often establishes abusive tendencies in it's victims. It's a vicious and predatory mental disease, that perpetrates itself through trauma. We recognize this every day for the individual, but we don't recognize it as much for the nation as a whole, because, hey, everyone is different, right? But if "everyone" has that traumatic past, then you have to generally suppose that they're going to all show signs of it, right? They may react differently, but a statistically signifigant portion are going to act in similar ways.
That a significant proportion of the population didn't agree, and didn't want to commit the acts of violence that were now necessary, was besides the point. By increasing the violence, the right wing was able to force the entire nation(as an ethnic grouping, rather than a De Jure nation) into what Sun Tzu would call "deadly ground". Suddenly, it didn't matter if you were a liberal jew who wanted to try to co-exist with the Fellahin, you all had to stand united or you would all surely perish. It's a common nationalistic ploy, and it's exploited time and time again. After 9/11, we fell for it and were sold two horribly managed wars, and probably purchased a third one on the layaway program. Well, after 1948, the Jews fell for it too.
This isn't to say that all Jews are fascists, but I think it's safe to say that most Likud ministers are... questionable. Particular the four I have quoted at length in this thread. Equally, not all German were Nazis, and even some Nazis were not bad(There's one notable and famous member of the Nazi party who has a memorial that is visited by Jews to this day, in Jerusalem. You know who it is.). But once that national fervor is whipped up, it's consuming. It places all other concerns as secondary to the natonal survival and expansion. And the worse the situation gets, the more extreme the Nationalist becomes.
There has to be a solution, because when I say we have a potential Genocide on our hands? Oh, we do. The problem is, at this stage in it's development: I'm not sure who it's going to kill, the Jews or the Palestinians. Time is not on the Jewish nation's side. Politically, their rivals are waxing in strength, their patron is waning. The demographics are not good: if the palestinians were accepted as citizens, they would be close to a majority, if not a majority. Which is obviously not a good thing when the palestinian nation is dominated by Salafi extremists. Turkey has grown more and more extreme in it's Islam.
Dammit, why, oh why couldn't they have just picked Uganda? Like, let the really religious ones still go to the Holy Land and eke out a living there. But for the rest, who want to live in peace and not get killed? Uganda offered sooo much better options.Statistics: Posted by Bonefish — Mon Apr 03, 2017 4:48 pm
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