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Nerd Pride Radio The home of the Nerd Pride Radio podcast and other acts of nerdity. 2016-12-28T10:18:48-06:00 https://nerdprideradio.com/nerds/feed.php?f=5&t=733 2016-12-28T10:18:48-06:00 2016-12-28T10:18:48-06:00 https://nerdprideradio.com/nerds/viewtopic.php?t=733&p=13204#p13204 <![CDATA[Re: Rogue One (Spoiler Thread)]]> Statistics: Posted by Ronster — Wed Dec 28, 2016 10:18 am


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2016-12-27T16:22:34-06:00 2016-12-27T16:22:34-06:00 https://nerdprideradio.com/nerds/viewtopic.php?t=733&p=13170#p13170 <![CDATA[Re: Rogue One (Spoiler Thread)]]>
I don't know if I just didn't understand the plot due to having a terrified kid on my lap or what, but NONE of it made the slightest bit of sense. Why did anyone but Jyn need to go see Galen at all, given that Bodhi already has risked everything (why? we learn nothing of him) to deliver the message, and nothing new is learned until they have the actual plans for the weapon? Are we to believe the others went back solely to assassinate the source of their most valuable leak ever, and that Bodhi would ever return, under the circumstances? Why does Galen help the Empire at all AFTER they kill his wife and his daughter is missing? Either they never needed him, in which case they wouldn't have tracked him down, or they needed him and he could have stopped them by not helping. If the idea was that he merely helped them speed it up, then we needed a clearer account of that, and we certainly need some of his interactions with Bodhi or at the least a scene explaining Bodhi's decision to go Rebel and help Galen. If we can get that in a few good moments in Episode VII with Finn, surely we could have it here too.

What on earth does Saw want, even? Why is he on Jedha? Why is anyone still on Jedha, for the benefit of those who aren't steeped in the backstories about the Jedi? Has Jyn been there before - was she raised there?! Can we get any clue as to why she saw the Empire murder her mother in cold blood and kidnap her father, and was raised by extremist rebels, yet is totes blase about all of it? Why are the extremists extremists, besides being willing to hood people and use an alien octopus as truth serum? Why does being reminded that you are a pilot wipe out all alien octopus effects? What exactly was Cassian doing that required him to shoot his injured, non-climbing co-conspirator early on (besides avenging in WAY darker style the re-write of Han Solo's shoot-first moment)? In what ten minutes did his entire moral compass change, and what has he been doing "since six years old" to grow that compass in the first place? We don't need fully developed character arcs but we need at least some scraps to make sense of the major plot developments. Cassian's transformation from "whatever it takes" to "can't pull trigger" is way weirder than, say, Finn's vacillation between "I'm out" and "we gotta help her!", which at least can be explained by the trauma of his recent defection plus possible love interests.

Worse yet, what was the point of all that struggle and death down below on Scarif to let the Rebel forces know to open the shield portal, when they were already trying to open the shield portal? Why can't the Empire figure out what was transmitted right away? Don't they have radios? Can they jam the Rebel frequencies but never intercept them? And why on earth would they blow up that whole place, if it was supposedly the only special warehouse for structural plans? Does no one in the entire galaxy make copies? Why wouldn't the rebels all save copies too? Why wouldn't the Empire at least investigate what happened down there after the fact so they could respond accordingly? Valuable prisoners and intelligence? Why are the subsequent episodes all about the Rebel victories in preventing the Empire from using their damn death star, which one gets the distinct sense is a New Thing, when we see two enormous mass destructions already caused by it here? The only reason any of the plot made sense is that we already knew the overarching story in which to slot new details.

I didn't mind that the new characters died, but if Yoda can be hiding out on a planet without being mentioned for a whole movie, and bunch of nonsense can happen in episodes 1-2-3 that never gets mentioned again, I'm sure they didn't need to kill everyone off for reasons of continuity alone. Rather, the message of the whole movie seemed to require that everyone die because we the Audience need to become acclimated to the reality of nuclear holocausts and senseless slaughters and tsunamis or whatever. It was the story of many Bothans dying to advance the rebel cause even though the happy ending comes too late for them to see, though we already know it happens. Had I known the movie was going to be THIS dark, I would not have taken my little kids to see it. As it was, we had an unpleasant car ride home because I was like, Buffy, we get that you're 13 and understand the movie, but listen to my carefully chosen words to your siblings and stop trying to Refute me with Facts: definitely Yes, the heroes LIVED because the Light came to transport them back out of the shield portal, and they WON. Certainly whole planets and moons were NOT lost to senseless, merciless holocausts that the good heroes in the other movies prevented to achieve victory? Anyway...

I liked that the small hammerhead corvette pushed one big destroyer into the other. That's classic David and Goliath style Star Wars story. The main character woman was cool, though we were permitted to learn so little of her thoughts, but there was something totally weird about her upper lip that I could not get past because it was so often the literal center of the close-ups on her face. They really, really wanted us to examine her upper lip in detail, and I did, and I did not like it. No offense to her, but it was a weird directorial choice. TTFN.

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2016-12-27T12:55:43-06:00 2016-12-27T12:55:43-06:00 https://nerdprideradio.com/nerds/viewtopic.php?t=733&p=13140#p13140 <![CDATA[Re: Rogue One (Spoiler Thread)]]> Statistics: Posted by Stan — Tue Dec 27, 2016 12:55 pm


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2016-12-27T10:55:19-06:00 2016-12-27T10:55:19-06:00 https://nerdprideradio.com/nerds/viewtopic.php?t=733&p=13117#p13117 <![CDATA[Re: Rogue One (Spoiler Thread)]]> Statistics: Posted by Phoebe — Tue Dec 27, 2016 10:55 am


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2016-12-27T07:47:40-06:00 2016-12-27T07:47:40-06:00 https://nerdprideradio.com/nerds/viewtopic.php?t=733&p=13101#p13101 <![CDATA[Re: Rogue One (Spoiler Thread)]]> Statistics: Posted by Ronster — Tue Dec 27, 2016 7:47 am


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2016-12-26T14:15:08-06:00 2016-12-26T14:15:08-06:00 https://nerdprideradio.com/nerds/viewtopic.php?t=733&p=13080#p13080 <![CDATA[Re: Rogue One (Spoiler Thread)]]>
While I agree that the characters were interesting, I felt like they weren't as developed as some of their counterparts in TFA. While I get that Rogue One is a standalone, how hard would it have been to show a 3 or 4 minute encounter between Galen Erso and Bodhi? His last words are "This is for you, Galen" It would have given Mads Mikkelsen some more well-deserved screen time, and would have gone a long way to developing Bodhi's motives further. If I were a betting man, (I'd be broke) but I'd wager that scene would up on the cutting room floor (or would have, if they did that sort of thing manually anymore)

Those of you who know me know I'm a HUGE fan of basically everything Star Wars. The biggest thing that stuck with that part of my personality was the REMARKABLY stupid R2/C3P0 cameo... They're not telling you at the outset "This is just prior to A New Hope", though Plastic Carrie Fischer's line at the end certainly puts forth that idea. So, walk me through this: The Tantive IV departs the (awesome, by the way) Mon Cal flagship and flies away with the Devastator in hot pursuit... They're running for their lives, and she's just been given the data card with the transmission from Scarif. They'll be chased down by the Devastator and captured, and Leia will entrust R2 with bringing the data to Obi-Wan, setting the original trilogy in motion... except, R2 and 3P0 are on Yavin. They established this while the Rogues were leaving for Scarif. I get that they feel like they can't have a Star Wars movie without the two droids... but how is Leia supposed to get the data to R2? The entire interrogation sequence in ANH demonstrates clearly that the Empire doesn't know about the base on Yavin. So, the Tantive is going to fly there WHILE THE DEVASTATOR IS CHASING THEM to pick up the droids? It just was really jarring to me. I'll have to watch again... maybe they were shown while fighters were departing for Eadu, and we're just supposed to assume that they traveled with the fleet when they attacked Scarif... but why show them there at all? R2 is arguably the most important character in the entire nonology... why leave this hanging there?

Things I liked:

I agree with the non-kiss. Loved that.

Alan Tudyk

Donnie Yen

Ben Mendelsohn's Orson Krennic.

Vader's retreat being on Mustafar.

The land battle. Very well done.

Ship designs... the TIE speeder variant and the Mon Cal Flagship were particular standouts for me.

Things I didnt like:

I would have liked to see more of Saw Gererra. When you cast an actor of Forest Whitaker's talent in a part like that, I want more than we got. Even a part on the level of Maz Kanata from TFA would have been better.

More background on Jyn's intervening years would have been great. Show us, even through inference, where she's been.

The somewhat ham-handed use of kyber crystals... but I've bitched enough already.



TL:DR: Good, not great. A solid outing. Mid-pack on my list currently.

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2016-12-25T01:35:52-06:00 2016-12-25T01:35:52-06:00 https://nerdprideradio.com/nerds/viewtopic.php?t=733&p=13046#p13046 <![CDATA[Re: Rogue One (Spoiler Thread)]]> Statistics: Posted by Eliahad — Sun Dec 25, 2016 1:35 am


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2016-12-24T22:02:37-06:00 2016-12-24T22:02:37-06:00 https://nerdprideradio.com/nerds/viewtopic.php?t=733&p=13043#p13043 <![CDATA[Re: Rogue One (Spoiler Thread)]]> Statistics: Posted by Mike — Sat Dec 24, 2016 10:02 pm


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2016-12-24T20:36:41-06:00 2016-12-24T20:36:41-06:00 https://nerdprideradio.com/nerds/viewtopic.php?t=733&p=13037#p13037 <![CDATA[Re: Rogue One (Spoiler Thread)]]> Statistics: Posted by bralbovsky — Sat Dec 24, 2016 8:36 pm


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2016-12-23T13:01:23-06:00 2016-12-23T13:01:23-06:00 https://nerdprideradio.com/nerds/viewtopic.php?t=733&p=12992#p12992 <![CDATA[Re: Rogue One (Spoiler Thread)]]> Statistics: Posted by poorpete — Fri Dec 23, 2016 1:01 pm


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2016-12-19T11:10:35-06:00 2016-12-19T11:10:35-06:00 https://nerdprideradio.com/nerds/viewtopic.php?t=733&p=12767#p12767 <![CDATA[Re: Rogue One (Spoiler Thread)]]> Statistics: Posted by poorpete — Mon Dec 19, 2016 11:10 am


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2016-12-19T11:03:14-06:00 2016-12-19T11:03:14-06:00 https://nerdprideradio.com/nerds/viewtopic.php?t=733&p=12766#p12766 <![CDATA[Re: Rogue One (Spoiler Thread)]]> Statistics: Posted by Cazmonster — Mon Dec 19, 2016 11:03 am


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2016-12-19T10:57:49-06:00 2016-12-19T10:57:49-06:00 https://nerdprideradio.com/nerds/viewtopic.php?t=733&p=12765#p12765 <![CDATA[Re: Rogue One (Spoiler Thread)]]> Statistics: Posted by Mike — Mon Dec 19, 2016 10:57 am


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2016-12-19T10:09:30-06:00 2016-12-19T10:09:30-06:00 https://nerdprideradio.com/nerds/viewtopic.php?t=733&p=12762#p12762 <![CDATA[Rogue One (Spoiler Thread)]]> Statistics: Posted by poorpete — Mon Dec 19, 2016 10:09 am


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