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Nerd Pride Radio The home of the Nerd Pride Radio podcast and other acts of nerdity. 2017-09-02T17:15:57-06:00 https://nerdprideradio.com/nerds/feed.php?f=5&t=1448 2017-09-02T17:15:57-06:00 2017-09-02T17:15:57-06:00 https://nerdprideradio.com/nerds/viewtopic.php?t=1448&p=26291#p26291 <![CDATA[Re: The C-ville Mess]]> Statistics: Posted by Bonefish — Sat Sep 02, 2017 6:15 pm


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2017-09-01T21:46:26-06:00 2017-09-01T21:46:26-06:00 https://nerdprideradio.com/nerds/viewtopic.php?t=1448&p=26241#p26241 <![CDATA[Re: The C-ville Mess]]> Statistics: Posted by El Jefe — Fri Sep 01, 2017 10:46 pm


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2017-08-19T14:36:13-06:00 2017-08-19T14:36:13-06:00 https://nerdprideradio.com/nerds/viewtopic.php?t=1448&p=25294#p25294 <![CDATA[Re: The C-ville Mess]]> Statistics: Posted by Phoebe — Sat Aug 19, 2017 3:36 pm


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2017-08-18T19:00:18-06:00 2017-08-18T19:00:18-06:00 https://nerdprideradio.com/nerds/viewtopic.php?t=1448&p=25281#p25281 <![CDATA[Re: The C-ville Mess]]>
Fascists/White Supremacists have always had intelligent and well-off people who were conspirators and managers(Not, necessarily, leaders. There is a difference between leadership and management). It's not that they "finally" got it figured out, it's that there have been lapses in law enforcement targeting them, as the Hauze pointed out. The actual "message" hasn't essentially changed since, say, the late 19th century. The same talking points I was using in 1999 and 2000 when I was a bit of a white supremacist, are the same ones that are trotted out now as a "red pill" that will make you change your mind on everything. The messages of racial inferiority that were advanced by Maximillian Mueller in the 19th century? The same core message that is advanced today.

There is no such thing as a "reasonable fascist". I have spent a good deal of my life exposed to people who fall on the fascist end of the spectrum, and even the ones who seem reasonable, are not. At the core of their ideology is the belief that White People are the chosen race, who are superior to all other races. All other races exist to be exploited in some fashion: Jews are extorted for their financial acumen, blacks are used for their physical strength, chinks are used for their intelligence, etc. Homosexuals may be useful for purposes, but ultimately, they must be purged from the blood line to prevent contagion of their inferiority. Women exist to breed and raise children, and nothing else. It's a reliably consistent world view.

Folks like Spencer and Cantwell, they're not actually the upper echelon. You won't see the upper echelon at rallies, you won't see them at meetings, most of the membership will never meet them. The people we see are those who have been chosen to be a public face, but the actual leadership are secretive. Most of them have political or financial connections that public knowledge of their activities would probably complicate. Hell, I'm pretty sure they probably limit their involvement to financial distribution, similar to the way the Jihadists are financed by people, but those people don't get their hands dirty.

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2017-08-18T17:42:26-06:00 2017-08-18T17:42:26-06:00 https://nerdprideradio.com/nerds/viewtopic.php?t=1448&p=25280#p25280 <![CDATA[Re: The C-ville Mess]]> Statistics: Posted by Phoebe — Fri Aug 18, 2017 6:42 pm


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2017-08-17T21:15:32-06:00 2017-08-17T21:15:32-06:00 https://nerdprideradio.com/nerds/viewtopic.php?t=1448&p=25252#p25252 <![CDATA[Re: The C-ville Mess]]>
1) The hardcore. These guys tend to be pretty easy to spot: they look like bikers, skinheads, punky kinda of dudes. Plenty of them sport tattoos that let you know, ranging from the obvious(double lightning bolts, swastikas). Physically and mentally capable of committing violence. plenty of them have prison time under there belt, where it's likely they were involved in some form of gang activity. The seem to serve two rolls: elite front line fighters who go in and bust heads, and leadership and possibly training capacities. One guy in particular seems to pop up twice, once leading a charge of shield bearing nazis to break through a crowd in a wedge, and later, standing in the back ground while Derril Harris was beaten by multiple nazis with bludgeons. I can't find the identification of him now, but the one I saw suggest he was a long time activist with multiple prison stretches.

But these guys also seem like the least likely to be swayed by doxxing or legal threats. I mean, when you go up to the tire shop they work at, and you see the rebel flag hanging on the back wall, you just kinda feel like, his boss probably doesn't care. Or if he bounces at a biker dive, his boss probably doesn't care. Hell, he probably see's the intimidation factor as a bonus. Or the guy is pushing meth or coke, and, well, yeah, he doesn't care. Jail and Prison time doesn't really bother him, because he's got the contacts on the inside. Violence is really the only thing these guys understand.

You could see these guys on the wings of the Polo shirt brigade when it was marching with torches. I wonder if that was purposeful: the light of the torches drew the attention towards the Polos, and away from the scary men in the shadows, who were performing a role similar to an NCO during a march.

2) Poloshirt Brigade. As you say, these guys are weekend warriors. They generally look clean cut enough to work in some kind of professional setting, like somebody you could run into while getting a loan, going out to eat, applying at a best buy, or getting your computer fixed. They may range in their devotion, but generally, I'd say they all feel pretty racist. But they're not "violent", in that they haven't hardened themselves to violence or the consequences of violence. I think this is evident in how many of them have broken down and started blubbering when the Doxxing hit them.

These guys are fodder. They're rank fillers. They may participate in violence, hell, they definitely will. But they arn't really as good at it as the Hardcore. They are rank fillers. They also lend an air of respectability, which helps from a recruiting standpoint: "we're just like you man. We are professionals, college educated. We're smart. We see what's going on.". I think these guys also help to recruit more Polos. They provide the "red pills" in hushed conversations by the watercoolers. They're the guys who say "I'm not racist, but...".

They may also provide more technical services. Having a manager at a business with hiring r firing, or just the recommendation privileges, can get your hardcore guys jobs they need to fufill their probation. They can gather information, or other wise act in ways that we wouldn't expect from the Hardcore. And they can blend in. And that's what is scary about them. On monday, these guys were back in the office, back to regular life, and no one knows.

Which is what makes them both frightening, and vulnerable. By outting them, we can remove their anonymity, revealing their secret identity. This can serve as a useful way to discourage them from supporting the direct action Hard Core guys actively, and hopefully prevent them from performing indirect support outside of events. Because that scares me. Polo shirts could perform a lot of useful stuff on the technical side, if they get their shit together. I'm sure are tech savvy, and if that can be co-ordinated and used, it could be dangerous. They can infiltrate groups that would otherwise recognize a hardcore nazi and disallow them, perform doxxing, or, at the most extreme, cyber-attacks(it sounds silly, but if you follow Mayden and the Ukrainian civil war, then there's some pretty impressive feats of cyber warfare to look at).

3) The Kekistanis. I know you kinda lumped these guys in with the polo shirts. They certainly seem casual, and alot were wearing the polos and khakis, and they tend to share the above's lack of combat aptitude. But they're also younger, and typically don't have the same fear of being doxxed. I mean, if a 21 year old already lives in his mom's basement, just how bad can you hurt him? And, like the hardcore, but unlike the Polos, they have a support system. Sure, it's a demented and weird one, but it's there. And they are somewhat dedicated, in their own sick little way.

These are kinda the new nazi youth. They're young and impressionable, and with the right guidance, can easily become a better Polo or even a Hardcore. They are also unpredictable and somewhat hard to identify. Are they just here for the lulz, or are they here for something more nefarious?

Not sure how accurate this is, at all, but it's just weird.

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