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I am so disappointed in John Cleese

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2022 1:54 pm
by Mike
Apparently, he's taking a job with some conservative news organization in Britain. He claims that he's joining them not because they are conservative, but rather because they are free speech oriented. He says he's afraid he'd be canceled if he was on the BBC. How stupid.

Re: I am so disappointed in John Cleese

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2022 1:58 pm
by Kyle
Ewww. That's what people say before they go full MAGA.

Re: I am so disappointed in John Cleese

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2022 2:20 pm
by Mike
Yeah. The man's 82 and a goddam national treasure. He was offered a knighthood (which he refused). He is the richest of the Pythons and could live comfortably forever even if he never worked another day in his life. He has nothing to prove. I'm just baffled by his motivations. Unless he lost a bet, I can't imagine why he thinks this is important to do right now.

Re: I am so disappointed in John Cleese

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2022 2:53 pm
by Kyle
One of the things I'm coming to terms with is that, even though I know I'm super smart and have all the answers and right opinions, no one really wants to hear my opinions. This is an issue on social media for me that I'm struggling with. I see all the terrible, racist, anti-woman things people are posting online and I think, "I have to counter that! I have to make sure there's a voice that speaks truth to power!" But then I've come to realize that none of it matters. No one is changing anyone else's mind on social networks. And trying to be the voice of reason is just adding to the cacophony and disfunction of it all. So I'll just post dad jokes and pictures of my kids and, if we're doing something political like protesting or stuff like that, then I'll post that too. But I'm done screaming into the void.

But John Cleese at 82 hasn't come to that same conclusion. He still thinks that his "big thoughts" are that goddamn important. I guess it's easy to be so narcissistic when you're that rich.

Re: I am so disappointed in John Cleese

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2022 4:07 pm
by Mando
Kyle wrote: Tue Oct 11, 2022 2:53 pm One of the things I'm coming to terms with is that, even though I know I'm super smart and have all the answers and right opinions, no one really wants to hear my opinions. This is an issue on social media for me that I'm struggling with. I see all the terrible, racist, anti-woman things people are posting online and I think, "I have to counter that! I have to make sure there's a voice that speaks truth to power!" But then I've come to realize that none of it matters. No one is changing anyone else's mind on social networks. And trying to be the voice of reason is just adding to the cacophony and disfunction of it all. So I'll just post dad jokes and pictures of my kids and, if we're doing something political like protesting or stuff like that, then I'll post that too. But I'm done screaming into the void.
Le Bingo!

Re: I am so disappointed in John Cleese

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2022 8:24 pm
by Kyle
Did I win something!?!?! Yay!

Re: I am so disappointed in John Cleese

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2022 9:40 pm
by Phoebe
Cleese is kind of an honorary philosopher and hangs out with a lot of British philosophers, and this vague element of "somebody needs to stand up for free speech against these crazy woke kids" is extremely influential in that group right now. It starts from a place where people find it off-putting to have dozens of students screaming at them, but then the next thing you know they have accepted ultra right wing allies uncritically. Like JK Rowling.

Re: I am so disappointed in John Cleese

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2022 5:14 am
by Kyle
Just like Rowling. Great example.