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Re: Deathless

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 11:16 am
by poorpete
In popular music, even back then, women-led songs often have near-parity with men. Mary Ford, Patti Page, Teresa Brewer, and Felicia Sanders (vocals on the last one) all in the top 5. 1953 is actually an exception year for critical praise... the women do well there too! Big Mama Thornton had "Hound Dog", Ruth Brown had "Mama He Treats Your Daughter Mean" and Faye Adams has "Shake a Hand" -- all top-notch all-time great R&B songs.


Re: Deathless

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 12:25 pm
by Tahlvin
1952 #25:

Re: Deathless

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 2:44 pm
by poorpete
Les Paul in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame both makes sense and no sense at all. Big Mama is putting her stamp in the genre and isn't in and here's Les with his light happy but virtuosic and multi tracked ditties. And they didn't invite Mary Ford, who is just as light and happy but she doesn't have a guitar named after her.

Re: Deathless

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:50 pm
by Tahlvin
1952 #24:

Re: Deathless

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 9:50 pm
by poorpete
He gets credit for having an Rhythm and Blues feel that "presages" rock, which again how about those actually performing in the genre? What I will give these people: it is interesting to hear the progression of white artists in the 50s realizing that black R&B is awesome.

Re: Deathless

Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2021 4:59 am
by Tahlvin
1952 #23:

Re: Deathless

Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2021 5:09 am
by Kyle
Too Easy.

Re: Deathless

Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2021 5:46 am
by poorpete
Kinda wish they gave this song less of a novelty feel, because Pee Wee King has talent and the lyrics are good! Not to rain on his 70 year old parade.

Re: Deathless

Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2021 6:13 am
by Tahlvin
1952 #22:

Re: Deathless

Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2021 6:23 am
by Mike
Tahlvin wrote: Wed Nov 10, 2021 4:59 am 1952 #23:
I shouldn't judge a 70 year old song too harshly, I suppose, but I think I'm gonna. The lyrics are gross. They're patronizing and indulgent and a reminder of how deeply ingrained misogyny has always been in our culture. The whole "why do women take so long to get ready" bit has been a hackneyed part of American comedy since before this song was written. 1000 stand-ups did this through the 80's and 90's, it was played for laughs in a million sit-coms, including the Flintstones and the Jetsons way back. And it's always from the male point of view, asking, "Geez, what's wrong with these women?", completely ignoring the societal demands on woman for hair-removal, hair-styling, make-up, clothing that is all more expensive, more complicated, more delicate, and more subject to fashion whims than men's clothes, jewelry, accessories, and so on. Not to mention than unlike men, women have to make all this preparation while being mindful of the fact that they will be judged in most situations based on their appearance above any other factor.

And ignorance of all of this is what allows Pee Wee to cluck indulgently about how his little slow-poke sure can be aggravating, but -- ha ha -- what can you do... I guess I'll just have to be patient.

Yeah, that's probably too harsh.

Re: Deathless

Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2021 6:31 am
by Tahlvin
1952 #21:

Re: Deathless

Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2021 6:55 am
by poorpete
A little too big band for me but exciting when they do close harmonies

Re: Deathless

Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2021 7:53 am
by Kyle
Tahlvin wrote: Wed Nov 10, 2021 6:13 am 1952 #22:
It’s in the Book
Part Wang

Re: Deathless

Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2021 8:04 am
by Tahlvin
1952 #20:

Re: Deathless

Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2021 2:07 pm
by Kyle
I'm Chung, by Eddie Fisher with Hugo Wanghalter and the Everyone Have Fun Tonight Orchestra

Re: Deathless

Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2021 3:07 pm
by Phoebe
Mike wrote: Wed Nov 10, 2021 6:23 am I shouldn't judge a 70 year old song too harshly, I suppose, but I think I'm gonna. The lyrics are gross. They're patronizing and indulgent and a reminder of how deeply ingrained misogyny has always been in our culture.
LOL misogyny is so ingrained that I totally thought the song was about something else. Well you know.

Re: Deathless

Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2021 3:33 pm
by Tahlvin
1952 #19:

Re: Deathless

Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2021 3:36 pm
by Kyle
High Wang

Re: Deathless

Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2021 3:40 pm
by poorpete
On this Chung's wedding day!

Re: Deathless

Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2021 4:14 pm
by Tahlvin
1952 #18:

Re: Deathless

Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2021 4:15 pm
by Mike
The Little Wang Chung that Cried

Re: Deathless

Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2021 4:16 pm
by Kyle
Mike wrote: Wed Nov 10, 2021 4:15 pm The Little Wang Chung that Cried
Ooo. Good one. And just like that I love the game again. Thank you.

Re: Deathless

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2021 4:38 am
by Tahlvin
1952 #17:

Re: Deathless

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2021 4:43 am
by poorpete
A stalker is a stalker

Re: Deathless

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2021 5:40 am
by Kyle
A Guy is a Wang

Re: Deathless

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2021 6:27 am
by Tahlvin
1952 #16:

Re: Deathless

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2021 7:36 am
by poorpete
My least favorite part of an otherwise golden age of women vocal standard pop singers -- is the "i'm a-now a-gonna speak-a in an outrageous accent-a" songs. And it hurts because it's obvious these songs are lots of fun! She's having fun singing it, the band is having fun playing it, and I'm having fun listening to it. Similar to the appropriation vs. appreciation thing -- it's one thing if an appropriation sucks, it's another if the appropriation is great.

Re: Deathless

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2021 11:10 am
by Tahlvin
1952 #15:

Re: Deathless

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2021 11:16 am
by poorpete
We have a country music songbook at home on the piano, and have used it as a way to teach my daughter the basics of piano and reading sheet music. Just a few days ago I was enjoying going through with her the wacky lyrics Hank puts in this, a true jambalaya of bayou paraphernalia.

Re: Deathless

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2021 11:51 am
by Tahlvin
1952 #14:

Re: Deathless

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2021 12:25 pm
by poorpete
Ella Mae was one of the few white Jump Blues artists. She's got a good swing!

Re: Deathless

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2021 1:08 pm
by Kyle
I'm wanged out yall.

Re: Deathless

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2021 1:24 pm
by poorpete
Kyle wrote: Thu Nov 11, 2021 1:08 pmI'm wanged out yall.
Still haven't figured out this pattern

Re: Deathless

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2021 1:33 pm
by Kyle
poorpete wrote: Thu Nov 11, 2021 1:24 pm
Kyle wrote: Thu Nov 11, 2021 1:08 pmI'm wanged out yall.
Still haven't figured out this pattern
And no place to chung.

Re: Deathless

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2021 2:14 pm
by Mike
Post.

Re: Deathless

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2021 2:21 pm
by Kyle
Cereal.

Re: Deathless

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2021 2:28 pm
by poorpete
Killer.

Re: Deathless

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2021 2:32 pm
by Kyle
Bees.

Re: Deathless

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2021 3:09 pm
by Tahlvin
1952 #13:

Re: Deathless

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2021 3:16 pm
by Kyle
Tell Me Wang.

I'M BACK, BABY!

Re: Deathless

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2021 4:13 pm
by Tahlvin
1952 #12:

Re: Deathless

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2021 6:22 pm
by Kyle
Any Wang!

YEAH, BABY! IT’S ON! GAME ON!

Re: Deathless

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2021 8:00 pm
by Tahlvin
1952 #11:

Re: Deathless

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2021 8:54 pm
by Mike
WANG of Fire!!

Re: Deathless

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2021 9:57 pm
by Tahlvin
I would have gone with Wang of Chung, but whatever.

1952 #10:

Re: Deathless

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2021 10:31 pm
by poorpete
For easy listening this is super fun and dynamic... love the harpsichord, the Latin rhythm, and the non overpowering strings and bass. Yay this song!

Re: Deathless

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2021 11:02 pm
by Tahlvin
1952 #9:

Re: Deathless

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2021 11:19 pm
by Mike
Here in My Heart
(Feldman, Hues, Costin)
Al Martino

Re: Deathless

Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 4:42 am
by Tahlvin
1952 #8:

Re: Deathless

Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 5:24 am
by Kyle
Here in My Wang, by Al Chungtino

Holy shit! How did I ever fall off this game!