Deathless

Tahlvin · Post by **Tahlvin** » Tue Oct 26, 2021 4:33 am

1956 #2:

poorpete · Post by **poorpete** » Tue Oct 26, 2021 5:27 am

Otis Blackwell!

Tahlvin · Post by **Tahlvin** » Tue Oct 26, 2021 6:04 am

And here you go, the second double-up for Presley this year (#14 & 15, #1 & 2).

1956 #1:

poorpete · Post by **poorpete** » Tue Oct 26, 2021 7:39 am

Mae Boren Axton! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mae_Boren_Axton

DOUBLE UP HOTEL

Elvis Presley (1956, 1/2)
The Beatles (1964, 1/2)
Usher (2004, 1/2)
Justin Bieber (2016, 1/2)
TLC (1995, 2/3)
Santana (2000, 2/3)
Lady Gaga (2009, 2/3)
Nelly (2002, 3/4)
Katy Perry (2011, 3/4)
Drake (2016, 3/4)
Post Malone (2018, 5/6)
John Cougar (1982, 7/8)
Ace of Base (1994, 9/10)
Chris Brown (2008, 9/10)
Taio Cruz (2010, 9/10)
The Weeknd (2015, 9/10)
Ja Rule (2002, 12/13)
The Beatles (1964, 13/14)
Elvis Presley (1956, 14/15)
Usher (1998, 15/16)
Usher (2002, 15/16)
Rihanna (2008, 16/17)
Flo Rida (2012, 16/17)
Miley Cyrus (2013, 17/18)
LL Cool J (1996, 20/21)
50 Cent (2003, 20/21)
21 Pilots (2016, 20/21)
Marc Anthony (2000, 22/23)
Fabolous (2003, 23/24)
The Four Seasons (1964, 24/25)
Air Supply (1981, 27/28)
Bow Wow (2005, 29/30)
Alessia Cara (2017, 30/31)

Tahlvin · Post by **Tahlvin** » Tue Oct 26, 2021 8:37 am

1955 #25:

Kyle · Post by **Kyle** » Tue Oct 26, 2021 10:58 am

COMO'S KO KO MO

Tahlvin · Post by **Tahlvin** » Tue Oct 26, 2021 12:18 pm

1955 #24:

Kyle · Post by **Kyle** » Tue Oct 26, 2021 2:23 pm

Wang of the Wild Frontier

Tahlvin · Post by **Tahlvin** » Tue Oct 26, 2021 2:32 pm

1955 #23:

poorpete · Post by **poorpete** » Tue Oct 26, 2021 3:26 pm

For Ko Ko Mo, wikipedia says it's "one of the earliest rock and roll songs" which is 100% bullshit. Wikipedia has this issue that if ANYONE says a song is "one of the first" or "the first" rock and roll song, it must be reported as so. This one is from an article about rock before Elvis, and this isn't even before Elvis. Elvis started recording in 1953 and had hits in 1954. In conclusion, bullshit.

This might end up being the earliest rock and roll song on THIS LIST but just because the white listening public in the early 50s were TOO SQUARE and/or racist to understand that rock and roll was alive and well even in the late 40s isn't an excuse. Things don't start until white people find out about it? It's... what's the word... bullwang!

No song should be allowed to be called "one of the earliest" "one of the first" or "the first" unless it predates Wynonie Harris' "All She Wants to Do is Rock" ("and roll all night long") released in 1949.

It's not even the earliest, just maybe the earliest of the genre that uses the full name of the genre in the song. Some may say it doesn't count because "Rock and Roll" wasn't the official name of the genre at that point, but I'd say sorry, I forgot in history books, how Germany invading Poland isn't part of World War II because the name World War II wasn't decided upon yet.

https://www.history.com/news/were-they- ... rld-war-ii
Thanks site I used to work for! Roosevelt promoting it after America got into the war lines up exactly with my point that a name is decided once white Americans realize it exists.

Bullwang.

Kyle · Post by **Kyle** » Tue Oct 26, 2021 4:04 pm

poorpete wrote: ↑Tue Oct 26, 2021 3:26 pm For Ko Ko Mo, wikipedia says it's "one of the earliest rock and roll songs" which is 100% bullshit. Wikipedia has this issue that if ANYONE says a song is "one of the first" or "the first" rock and roll song, it must be reported as so. This one is from an article about rock before Elvis, and this isn't even before Elvis. Elvis started recording in 1953 and had hits in 1954. In conclusion, bullshit.

This might end up being the earliest rock and roll song on THIS LIST but just because the white listening public in the early 50s were TOO SQUARE and/or racist to understand that rock and roll was alive and well even in the late 40s isn't an excuse. Things don't start until white people find out about it? It's... what's the word... bullwang!

No song should be allowed to be called "one of the earliest" "one of the first" or "the first" unless it predates Wynonie Harris' "All She Wants to Do is Rock" ("and roll all night long") released in 1949.

It's not even the earliest, just maybe the earliest of the genre that uses the full name of the genre in the song. Some may say it doesn't count because "Rock and Roll" wasn't the official name of the genre at that point, but I'd say sorry, I forgot in history books, how Germany invading Poland isn't part of World War II because the name World War II wasn't decided upon yet.

https://www.history.com/news/were-they- ... rld-war-ii
Thanks site I used to work for! Roosevelt promoting it after America got into the war lines up exactly with my point that a name is decided once white Americans realize it exists.

Bullwang.

In one of the first instances of the phrase in print, poorpete was a trailblazer. On October 26, 2021, his denial that Perry Como invented rock and roll was one of the earliest uses of the term "Bullwang."

poorpete · Post by **poorpete** » Tue Oct 26, 2021 4:08 pm

lol - yet bullwang existed long before its naming

Tahlvin · Post by **Tahlvin** » Tue Oct 26, 2021 4:53 pm

1955 #22 (the second version of this song for this year, and not the last!):

Post by **Mike** » Tue Oct 26, 2021 9:07 pm

poorpete wrote: ↑Tue Oct 26, 2021 3:26 pm

Rock and roll was a euphemism for sexin' long before it was the name of a style of music. The phrase "all she wants to do is stay at home and hucklebuck with daddy all night long" is one of my favorites and removes any doubt as to what rockin' and rollin' might be.

Awesome song.

EDIT: now I'm down the rabbit hole. Back up a couple years to get to Roy Brown singing Good Rockin' Tonight in 1947 before Elvis gave it permission to be mainstream a few years later...

And then skimmed back through a bunch of Sister Rosetta Tharpe, until I stopped at 1938 with That's All...

Listen to her guitar right at the start. If that ain't rock n roll, it's at least part of the foundation. I only heard of Tharpe a couple years ago from Our Fake History's "Who Invented Rock and Roll" trilogy. I'm with him that the "first" rock and roll song really depends on your personal taste. Some people hear Sister Rosetta Tharpe and they hear definite rock and roll. Others listen and they hear the gospel influence and swing and blues... they hear proto-rock, but not quite rock and roll yet.

Me? That's All sounds like pure rock and roll. I mean... Wow! But then I listen to the rest of her music and they're all close but not quite. That's All is a real outlier, and a beautiful one at that. But I'm no expert.

All I know is that Roy Brown and Wynonie Harris are definitely performing rock and roll music by the late 40's. So somewhere in that decade(ish) rock and roll was born.

poorpete · Post by **poorpete** » Tue Oct 26, 2021 11:46 pm

You got it!!! I'm still working my way backwards and relatively new to thes facts, but gotta include two more

Louis Jordan's Caldonia (referenced in Good Rockin Tonight) in 1945

You also got this from 1939 but very much a mix of swing and what is to become rock.

As of now my feeling is rock found it's way in Louis Jordan's upbeat mixing of swing and blues and Sister Rosetta's upbeat guitar-led gospel tunes. When those united it was off to the races. Some want to give credit to honky-tonk merging with these genres, which gives us Elvis and rockabilly, but it is what it is, a (I admit really cool) subgenre of the music played by mostly black artists for at least a decade.

Tahlvin · Post by **Tahlvin** » Wed Oct 27, 2021 4:52 am

1955 #21:

Kyle · Post by **Kyle** » Wed Oct 27, 2021 5:09 am

I can’t believe you guys are trying to steal this from Perry Como.

Post by **Mike** » Wed Oct 27, 2021 5:40 am

Kyle wrote: ↑Wed Oct 27, 2021 5:09 am I can’t believe you guys are trying to steal this from Perry Como.

Como was clearly ripping off late Beach Boys. No respect.

Tahlvin · Post by **Tahlvin** » Wed Oct 27, 2021 6:12 am

1955 #20:

Kyle · Post by **Kyle** » Wed Oct 27, 2021 6:47 am

Nat “Wang” Cole

Post by **Mike** » Wed Oct 27, 2021 7:23 am

poorpete wrote: ↑Tue Oct 26, 2021 11:46 pm
Louis Jordan's Caldonia (referenced in Good Rockin Tonight) in 1945

I've never heard Caldonia before, but what a party song! Imagine the audience participation in that screech at every live performance. Just the sort of thing to make old people shake their heads sadly.

Tahlvin · Post by **Tahlvin** » Wed Oct 27, 2021 7:50 am

1955 #19:

poorpete · Post by **poorpete** » Wed Oct 27, 2021 8:51 am

Hush, we talking Caldon-IA!

Love this cover -- especially the intro with rude white people not letting him find his dad

From 1946! Rock and roll (or something very close to it) in a Hollywood picture. He also performed it for President Truman that year. MOP!

Tahlvin · Post by **Tahlvin** » Wed Oct 27, 2021 12:05 pm

1955 #18:

poorpete · Post by **poorpete** » Wed Oct 27, 2021 12:11 pm

A BANGER!

Post by **Mike** » Wed Oct 27, 2021 12:38 pm

poorpete wrote: ↑Wed Oct 27, 2021 8:51 am

From 1946! Rock and roll (or something very close to it) in a Hollywood picture. He also performed it for President Truman that year. MOP!

That is simply the best. Everything about that song. That version. (except the white folk)

Post by **Mike** » Wed Oct 27, 2021 12:42 pm

And he's still alive.

Kyle · Post by **Kyle** » Wed Oct 27, 2021 1:13 pm

Mike doesn't know how to play this game. Total bullwang.

Tahlvin · Post by **Tahlvin** » Wed Oct 27, 2021 2:26 pm

1955 #17:

Post by **Mike** » Wed Oct 27, 2021 3:29 pm

Kyle wrote: ↑Wed Oct 27, 2021 1:13 pm Mike doesn't know how to play this game. Total bullwang.

Wang doesn't wang wang to wang this wang. Total wangwang.

Post by **Mike** » Wed Oct 27, 2021 3:29 pm

Is that better?

Tahlvin · Post by **Tahlvin** » Wed Oct 27, 2021 4:33 pm

1955 #16:

poorpete · Post by **poorpete** » Wed Oct 27, 2021 5:41 pm

The original better version...

Some notoriety followed Gibbs for her cover versions of music popularized by black performers, such as Etta James's "The Wallflower" (recorded by Gibbs with modified lyrics under the title "Dance With Me Henry", released March 26, 1955) and LaVern Baker's "Tweedle Dee" (which outsold Baker's version, prompting complaint from her). Decades later, Gibbs commented that she, like most artists of the day, had no say in their choice of material and arrangements. A widely told story has LaVern Baker taking out a life insurance policy on herself in advance of a flight to Australia and naming Georgia Gibbs as the beneficiary. "You need this more than I do," Baker is said to have written to Gibbs, "because if anything happens to me, you're out of business."[1]

Post by **Mike** » Wed Oct 27, 2021 8:51 pm

Gibbs first achieved acclaim (and notoriety) in the mid-1950s interpreting songs originating with the black rhythm and blues community

Tahlvin · Post by **Tahlvin** » Thu Oct 28, 2021 1:35 am

1955 #15:

Kyle · Post by **Kyle** » Thu Oct 28, 2021 5:01 am

Mike wrote: ↑Wed Oct 27, 2021 3:29 pm
Kyle wrote: ↑Wed Oct 27, 2021 1:13 pm Mike doesn't know how to play this game. Total bullwang.
Wang doesn't wang wang to wang this wang. Total wangwang.

No. You posted twice in a row.

Also- I don’t think that word means what you think it means.

Tahlvin · Post by **Tahlvin** » Thu Oct 28, 2021 7:10 am

1955 #14:

Phoebe · Post by **Phoebe** » Thu Oct 28, 2021 10:55 am

Mike wrote: ↑Wed Oct 27, 2021 12:42 pm And he's still alive.

I was not prepared for him to sing and then he also sang!

Tahlvin · Post by **Tahlvin** » Thu Oct 28, 2021 12:29 pm

1955 #13 (a repeat from 1956):

poorpete · Post by **poorpete** » Thu Oct 28, 2021 12:36 pm

I think I always thought "well a bless-a my soul" was a reference to "All Shook Up" but it predates it. Maybe the opposite?

Anyways, this song is great!

Kyle · Post by **Kyle** » Thu Oct 28, 2021 12:42 pm

WANG!

Phoebe · Post by **Phoebe** » Thu Oct 28, 2021 2:45 pm

I had the 45 of the song growing up and used to play it and sing it all the time. Explains a lot.

Tahlvin · Post by **Tahlvin** » Thu Oct 28, 2021 4:35 pm

1955 #12:

poorpete · Post by **poorpete** » Thu Oct 28, 2021 4:37 pm

Just love the way Ernie performs 16 Tons... the way he even laughs a line and they leave it in. That's confidence in your craft.

Tahlvin · Post by **Tahlvin** » Fri Oct 29, 2021 4:50 am

1955 #11:

Kyle · Post by **Kyle** » Fri Oct 29, 2021 5:33 am

The Wang Wang

Tahlvin · Post by **Tahlvin** » Fri Oct 29, 2021 6:22 am

1955 #10:

poorpete · Post by **poorpete** » Fri Oct 29, 2021 6:27 am

Tahlvin · Post by **Tahlvin** » Fri Oct 29, 2021 7:53 am

1955 #9:

Kyle · Post by **Kyle** » Fri Oct 29, 2021 10:28 am

Dance With Me Wang